Topics Started by Captain Obvious

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I think I have finally reached the point were I have to make a hard decision....
by confusedandalone in
1. jw
2. experiences
<rant>.

i know i have been rambling alot (feel free to delete my threads if so), but it appeas i am getting to the point where i see no use in the bible.

i feel very bad about this right now.
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What is the WT's definition of an Apostate...
by Bells in
1. jw
2. friends
i don't mean the 'unruly men who cook up wicked reasoning and season their brew with poisonous lies that deceive minds' definition.... i mean - who are they actually referring to when they are doing these awful talks at the conventions about the mentally diseased apostates etc.. specifically - is an 'apostate' someone who was actually baptised (baptized for you american's ) ?

or can someone who was simply raised in "the truth" but left and was never baptised be classified as this lying, deceiving, mentally diseased apostate also?

or am i considered to be an apostate - even though i wasn't raised in the cult, never went to a meeting etc.
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Fading fast children are starting to ask questions, need help.
by Crazyguy in
1. jw
2. friends
ok i have been fading fast, missed a lot of meetings over the past couple of months and the kids think its mostly do to my being busy with work.

this morning was probably the first sunday that i was home and could go but did not.

so my 8 year old asked me if i was going and why when i said no.
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2013 Convention "Apostate talk" Refuted point by point
by Watchtower-Free in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i found this over at https://www.facebook.com/groups/xjwrg3 its the "ex-jehovah's witness recovery group 3".

its by a member of this forum goes by the name "toledo squad" .

he said he sent it to the emails of 46 jws .. .
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Wouldn't it just makes sense for GOD to...
by confusedandalone in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
just one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.

wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?

for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
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had another conversation with my wife this morning
by Crazyguy in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
she was getting already for service so i asked her "how do you do it?

" "how do you still go and do all this spiritual stuff now that you know that my research and letter to bethel shows that the jw religion denies us the messiah"?

she got all defensive and disagreed again with what i wrote to bethel and then i had to step in and tell her that its "its them that teaches that we don't have a mediator in christ and were not under the new covenant".
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AVOIDING A SHEPHERDING CALL: Suggestions pls
by grumblecakes in
1. jw
2. friends
yup got a voice mail bright and early this morning "grumblecakes, we would like to schedule a shepherding call".. how do i get outta this?.

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thanks!!
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watchtower tones down apostate talk at august 3rd convention!
by nowwhat? in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
no mention of them being mentally diseased or using "lies" to deceive god's people, just that they are out to attract followers for themselves!.

p.s.

i was cringing at the thought of sitting for 3 1/2 hours for the afternoon session but fortunately my one kid got sick!!
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MAYBE THE DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER READ
by Bloody Hotdogs! in
1. watchtower
2. bible
[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:punctuationkerning /> <w:validateagainstschemas /> <w:saveifxmlinvalid>false</w:saveifxmlinvalid> <w:ignoremixedcontent>false</w:ignoremixedcontent> <w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext>false</w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext> <w:compatibility> <w:breakwrappedtables /> <w:snaptogridincell /> <w:wraptextwithpunct /> <w:useasianbreakrules /> <w:dontgrowautofit /> </w:compatibility> <w:browserlevel>microsoftinternetexplorer4</w:browserlevel> </w:worddocument> </xml><!

[endif]i was just sent the article "creation declares the glory of god!

i think it might contain the stupidest paragraph i have ever read:.
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The Bizarre Free Will
by John_Mann in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
two years before i left jw world i came to a strange conclusion about the jw cosmology and the free will doctrine.. basically i came to conclusion that satan is right about the universal sovereign issue.

and i came with that just only using jws premises, no outside apostasy.

i just told to my sister what she thought about it, and she said to me: dont tell anyone about this!.